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Speaking of "limits"...
Before watching Hannibal and getting deeper into darker concepts, because we're both aware I was never one to shy away from any concept... But I also.. never found myself theorizing darker themes when things fell silent..
That being said, I was wondering if horror could be the only genre that allows love to become literal.
We've always said "someone steals our heart, gets under our skin, takes our breath away, or consumes our thoughts."
But if they actually did, they'd been seen as a villain, and not someone devoted to possession and love.
So isn't horror where this all stops pretending that devotion is metaphorical?
Horror isn’t the only genre - it’s just the loudest one. Or maybe it’s more of an umbrella term.
In horror, love stops being abstract and becomes a material fact. The beloved isn’t an idea anymore, they’re meat. And in making that shift, horror admits something most other stories won’t -love isn’t really about understanding someone. It’s about ingesting them.
Tbh, love hits harder in these genres than it ever does in conventional romance. You said earlier that someone who actually steals your heart would be seen as a villain, not a lover. The villain is the only one brave enough to mean the poetry. A villain has more to offer when it comes to love precisely cuz he isn’t bound by societal shackles. There’s that common line- a hero would sacrifice you to save the world, while a villain would sacrifice the world to save you.
Horror isn’t a perversion of love. It’s more like love without the metaphor. It says that if you truly want to be “inside” someone, you have to be willing to tear through skin, bone, and sanity to get there.
Some other genres that run on the same radical premise -
Sci-fi does it by treating the old romantic wish to “become one” as an engineering problem - characters literally merge nervous systems, upload consciousness into each other’s bodies or become symbiotic organisms. The metaphor stops being a feeling and turns into a technical achievement (or a catastrophe).
Religious mysticism goes even further. The language of union with the divine would sound monstrous if you applied it to a human lover - being consumed, pierced, emptied, eaten, dissolved etc. Some of those texts are more violent than most horror. Think of St. Teresa of Avila describing an angel piercing her heart with a fiery spear, or the Eucharist being the actual flesh and blood of God.
Yeah, I can see it being considered horror if we're treating the genre as an umbrella term for anything that refuses to keep its metaphors safe.
And I’m a little offended you called Hannibal a horror (kidding, don't take it seriously.) It’s a love story. The crime is just the setting!!
“If I saw you every day forever, Will, I would remember this time.”
“I am not fortune’s fool, I am yours.”
“I’ve never known myself better than when I was with you.”
“I don’t know whether either of us can survive separation.”
“You came here to get the old scent - why don’t you just smell yourself?”
“My time - before you and after you.”
Plus Bedelia’s entire monologue about how deeply Hannibal yearns for Will. That’s straight up romantic material. Strip out the murders and Hannibal is basically one of those dark romance books people lose their minds over on BookTok. (Okay, fine - it is a psychological horror thriller. But the point still stands.)
You just don’t get dialogues like that in regular romance.
I've been thinking about autocannibalism. I even went into a spiral of research and slight mortification, because we all do it without knowing it. But then I started thinking even deeper... memory might be humanity's strangest form of cannibalism in both forms...
What do you think?
Yeah, you’re right!! To some extent, memory really is the strangest form of cannibalism, and it works in both directions.
We rewrite things without realizing it. Every time we tell a story from our past, we lose a little more of what actually happened and replace it with who we are now. It just happens.
But we also do it on purpose - especially when we lose someone. We hold onto their memories, little habits, words, even their pain. We keep eating those memories cuz if we stop, it feels like we’re losing them all over again. That’s why grief is so physically exhausting. You’re actively digesting someone’s absence just to keep going.
We can’t remember without changing what we’re remembering, and we can’t live without remembering. So we keep eating the hard parts too, cuz that’s how we survive.
There’s a rare condition called hyperthymesia where people remember almost everything - every painful detail, every ordinary moment. It’s exhausting for them. They can't move past things the way most of us do. Which makes me think forgetting isn't a flaw. It's kind of a mercy.
I still remember crying over something a long time ago. But if I really think about it now, it doesn’t even feel like a big deal. It was huge to my past self. I don’t remember what was going through my head - prolly a dozen things at once. All I know is that it mattered to me then.
This gave me a whole new way to think about it. Thank you for the Q - it opened something up.
Love these words are scary “ The end is going to be happy.
At least, I feel it's a happy ending.” WDYM YOU FEEL LOLLLLL. You just want us to bite our nails in anticipation and it took a looooong time to grow them. You really are a little menace (said with love)
Maybe you're not reading all my stories - but recently I killed Wei in one of my fics. And I'm working on more concepts that can make you lose your mind. So don't you think a "happy ending" is more than enough??
Jk - it won't be something like, "we're boyfriends now." You already saw what happened to Wei when he went OOC. So yeah..it's going to be fun !!
And those nails you've been growing? Let's just say..long nails and certain activities don't mix well. Keep 'em short. Trust me. 😌
i am so amazed by how your brain works.. how do you even come up with this stuff? at first i was convinced you were a biology major, but since you already said you aren’t im even more intrigued on how these ideas come to you? do you like reading a lot about stuff like this? i was already flabbergasted at the food play series.. but your new fic literally had me BLOWN AWAYYY like you really make the most out of your creative freedom!! i’m so glad you share your genius ideas, you don’t understand how excited i get when i see you uploaded a new fic!! – 🐰
Thank you sm for such a sweet compliment and reading those notes!! Half the time I’m worrying whether people are just skipping the knowledge jargon and diving straight into the filth.
But yeah, I do read a wide range of blogs and watch documentaries on various themes.
If I really want to go deep, I'll even fall down a Google Scholar or ResearchGate rabbit hole. I can definitely be considered a nerd -just not your typical one with awkward glasses and introverted vibes, since I actually have a pretty great extroverted life (and perfect vision)! Just embracing my nerd self.
Since you used a 🐰, let me tell you a fun fact: rabbits not only can, but must eat a specific type of their own poop to stay healthy. (Maybe you already knew that, or did I just ruin bunnies for you? 😂)
I really love that you are here. Keep dropping random knowledge bombs on me from time to time so I can turn what I know into a little more than just a drop! 💖
Please read it and tell me I'm not tripping, because I'm pretty sure there's something
So I have these professors(middle aged now, about 45-50 age) who are in the same department and have same specialization, so often times they end up taking the same subject together (there are two sections, so one proff each section). And they're besties! Who are a liiiiiitle toooo close to each other👀.. and all the papers they publish are together! So if one prof publishes a paper with their student, the other is literally bound to be third/fourth author too... It's almost like they're married and their Google scholar profiles are also married🤣..
They are both kind and very sweet to us! One of them has a loud voice (say proff X).. so many times it has happened that when they are both taking classes in the same building the other proff (say proff Y) sometimes just stops mid explanation, listens for a moment for the other proff's voice and tell us, 'oh it's proff X right 😄' AND THAT IS SO ADORABLEEEEEE
Apparently they did the btech together, were partners on their thesis projects and probably did their phD's together as well!!! They are always together, going to classes in the same car, tea breaks, outings EVERYTHING TOGETHER! But but but proff X is married and has a daughter, but proff Y is unmarried even now. I went throught their older fb posts and guess what i found... Proff X and Y with their lil girl as if they were married and had a kid🥹🥹🥹 idk what is up with proff X's wife but I have NEVER in my 4 years seen her with him... And the daughters seems close with proff Y too, the three of them have outings together sometimes!!
Also get this! I recently found out that Proff Y has a photo of Proff X in their house. Just a random single, small old school framed photo of Proff X in their house.. you know how in earlier times they didn't have phones so it feels like he just kept a photo of Proff X with him!!!
They also do gardening together and everything Proff Y does, Proff X is with him!! Proff Y needs to make a painting, proff X will drive him to and from shops and help him set everything up. Proff Y is asked to help with events then proff X is also there with him. Proff X is asked to host and judge a competition, proff Y also follows him. And proff X cooks a lot, it always seems like he's cooking for proff Y! Proff Y's statuses are filled with proff X, like he's always gushing about his man cooking 😭😭 He's always at proff Y's house, in his apartment kitchen cooking something or the other and proff Y is posting about ittt, calling it new food from Proff X's kitchen LIKE SIR NO THAT'S LITERALLY YOUR APARTMENT KITCHEN HE'S STANDING AND COOKING AT?!!
TELL ME THEY'RE NOT TOGETHER??!! THEY'RE SO CLEARLY COUPLE GOALS AND NO ONE IS AS EXCITED ABOUT THEM AS I AM!!! That drives me crazy!?? In this homophobic country, in this prejudiced and highly dangerous place they have such a sweet beautiful world with themselves and ITS THE BEST THINGGGG?!!!!!!!! You can tell I needed to get this out of my system😭 I'm literally swooning everytime I see them together, just existing like any other married couple!!! Like private but not secret 😭😭😭 Everyone else is so unbothered, like LOOK AT THEM AREN'T THEY SO COOL!!! And both of them are so sweet to us students, especially proff Y, he always supports us and guides us!! Tell me I'm not crazy bruh😭😭😭😭😭
You are ABSOLUTELY not crazy. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WITH EYES IN THAT ENTIRE DEPARTMENT 😭.
I'm honestly impressed that you deep-dived into their Google Scholar profiles - cuz SAME. I did that too whenever I found a prof really interesting (not in a crush way, just genuinely when they simplify concepts so well). But you took it to another level with the fb archaeology and the framed photo discovery. That's dedication.
Carpooling, cooking in his apartment, still single while the other is married? BTech together, thesis partners, PhD together, publishing together? Their Google Scholar profiles are literally married at this point 😭.
And the daughter being close with Prof Y, the outings, the 3 of them looking like a family while Prof X's wife is nowhere in sight for 4 yrs? That's not a coincidence.
You did your homework, girl. Was your entire department just blind?? Cuz how is no one else losing their mind over this? They're literally a whole married couple in every way that matters and everyone's just.. walking past them?? Make it make sense.
Thank you sm for sharing this with me cuz I am now EMOTIONALLY INVESTED in their love story 😭. And honestly?? Since you explained it with such detail and excitement, you should write the fic. You have the eye for it. You noticed everything. I'll just be your cheerleader and first reader 🥰
I've never been a fan of tumblr.
It reminds me too much of Myspace and that is just too tender of a subject. 😂
"Chaos Critter" is very "nerdy" to me. It is very crafty and deliberate. I find it nonconformative, while admitting that Chaos, as vague as that term can be, is the backing of your energy.
Chaos can run curiosity, power intelligence, feed hormones, and so much more.
I love the idea of chaos as an umbrella term more than I ever appreciated it's textbook definition. Given, artistically, we as "creators" have the freedom to reshape words to "fit" our tone and specific needs. So maybe nobody else ever thought of Chaos the same way as I.. or maybe I am completely unoriginal. Hahaha
Either way, I still think it fits you the best. A non-conforming critter feeding on tidbits of chaos all around them.
I was wondering if I should make an alters.. I see more people on here anyways.. hmm.. I might do that. Of course, I'll keep the revo, I am not losing any of our conversations. Hah.
- Mia, JonetsuDN
Okay, fair point about Tumblr - Myspace comparison is brutal but I can't even argue with that.
For Chaos Critter -yeah, it tends to be non-conforming. But isn't that pretty normal for people here? Most of us aren't really following what the world wants us to be. Kind of our own kind -misfits, in the best way.
For chaos -I guess even the textbook definition is pretty romantic too. 'A state of utter disorder and confusion.' The butterfly effect -one tiny, accidental moment changes your entire trajectory. A missed train, a spilled coffee, or a hesitant 'hello' that blossoms into a lifetime.
Glad you're here, but I won't mind asking you things there too. Place doesn't matter, person does.
"Chaos Critter" hmmm.. I love it.
It feels very ... You. Haha.
Thank you for giving us an opening to speak to you outside of your comments. As someone who forgets way too much, I'll have to try my hardest to remember and randomly pop in to drop a psychological gift.
- Mia, JonetsuDN
Chaos Critter?..wait, me though? I thought I gave off more of a nerdy vibe with all my long winded texts and random questions.
Honestly, I already had my Tumblr for people to reach me outside the comments, but I realized not everyone who's on Insta or X feels comfortable hopping over there -just like how I'm reluctant about spending time on X myself. So I figured, since most people seem more comfortable here, why not open up this space too?
I really am a friendly person, I promise! I actually considered making a Revo account at one point, but I've seen it go down and fluctuate so many times that I thought it'd be better to keep things here (i hope its stable here).
And for you specifically, I'm always so glad to learn from you. Every time we talk or I read your work, I walk away with something new, something that sticks. So whenever you decide to drop your pieces of knowledge on me, I'll be nothing but grateful and ready to receive them. 🤍
you should stop supporting other authors who can't also support you back. they dont deserve your support
I can feel how much you care about me in this comment, and honestly? Thank you, it means the world that you're watching out for me. ❤️
But let me ease your worry- I don't comment because I'm expecting replies or support in return. I comment because their work genuinely moved me, and I want them to know that.
I've never felt unsupported or slighted by other authors. They've always been good to me. So I'm okay, I promise!
And once again, thank you for your love and for being my first anon here. Your love doesn't go unnoticed. ❤️
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