Do u think there exist any alterations to circumstances in canon in which ivantill couldāve gotten together romantically (in a mizisua way, the idea of romance itself is probably a little oblique to them lol)? Honestly I just think the combination of their environment and the development of their individual psyches due to it makes me struggle to conceptualise it. I just feel like theyād have to be slightly different characters to be able to reach that stage of communication with each other in a world like alnst, but idk the notion of them being together like mizisua is just so interesting to meā¦
Yes Iām afraid I am with you on this :( I do adore seeing fanarts of them being together in anakt garden because itās really cute, but realistically is hard for me to imagine. Their miscommunication goes so deep and I believe that it is their traumas from before they even got into Anakt Garden that has shaped that and then with every argument, every hurt, it only got worse. Idk they make me so sick because despite that all, we know that a small thing could change it. Like in qna Vivinos said that a lot could have been different if Ivan have known about Till drawing him⦠and it seems like such a little thing but like, the fact Till didnāt show him these drawings its also important, the shyness, embarassment, fear of Ivanās reaction, of Ivanās negative words, of rejection, it all is so important to Tillās character and is also dependant on his circumstances and trauma⦠I kinda feel like only accident could save them, like, Ivan accidentally seeing it (though Iām not sure if it would be enough for Ivan to take ang initiative and if he told Till he saw and if he told him that in a way that wouldnāt lead to an argument..?) or Till accidentally seeing Ivan at his low. But even there, Iām not sure. They have just so many fears, the tendencies to back away. They canāt even ask the other if theyāre okay like omg the most useless gay people in the universe I am so sad. Idk. Even their first meeting, the flowercrown fight, have set their dynamic in such unbenefical way for them. Like I dont think their personalities clash, I mean, they do, but not in the āthey dont fit each other and could never work outā way because I think if they communicated they could be so perfect for each other but I thereās just too many reasons as to why they couldnāt communicate to me like. they really are tragicš
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