i think most jay stans agree with you and anon on jake's animosity towards jay esp 23-24 lol it was a big thing that jay focused/solo accts used to always notice and talked about how annoying it was. (examples on the top of my head are saying jay was a dirty roommate on air, saying he is the worst(lack of a better term) roommate during that one live where sunoo had to defend him saying he's not that bad, always correcting his minor grammar mistakes which still happens now btw)
thats why i could never understand jayke shippers because ermm?? it's painfully obvious and before bjays would never choose 02z lol denimz on top🙂‍↕️

then jungwon and the other members jokes or the things they said about jay were borderline mean too.. special mention on jw bc we all know jay has so much love for him which is why when it's jw who does it, it pains me more than others lol i think i stopped watching en contents in full for a while because how they treated jay made me uncomfortable

im really glad their dynamics are changing now though