anon · 17d

Please don’t be mad at me. I completely understand the call outs because I’m with you on that since I love ot13 even if i’m a gov shipper. But, there are two things happening at once — they might be seeing something that you don’t see which is why they’re upset, and at the same time, we might also be seeing something they don’t see which is why we’re upset. Both things can be true at the same time. What i’m trying to say is that it’s really true that some people have been unnecessarily throwing shade at gov shippers, and some people also keep forcing us to ship all 78 pairs just to be considered a “REAL CARAT” so I get why some of them react that way ofc except for those talking about engagement shits. I just think it would be better if the call out was directed at carats in general and not only to those who ship gov pairs because let’s be honest, rare or gov shippers can also do problematic things. I’m just explaining this because some people think they’re only angry because they “don’t understand” the issue, when in reality, they also genuinely feel targeted by certain call outs, which is why they keep reiterating their side. if some people say, “If you’re not doing anything wrong, then why are you affected?” well i’m not personally offended, but it’s honestly hypocritical when people choose to turn a blind eye and invalidate what those shippers are experiencing, even when it’s true that they also see things that are genuinely offensive. Because some people are clearly using this issue just to throw shade or indirectly attack them instead of actually trying to address the real problem. Lastly, to those who have hidden animosity to Dino and whose minds revolve only around ships, please get out of Caratland and go outside for once. Stop hating on people who are simply defending Dino. And if you still can’t see or understand that, then honestly, you don’t deserve to see Seventeen once they all back.

that's valid tho. i definitely have seen rareshippers shade yall & it's not that im defending these ppl bcs, like, this didn't have to be a ship war, but i get where they're coming from. iirc the person who excluded dino (in an fb post) was a govt shipper which definitely pissed a lot of ppl, myself included. also, i think it's just these people are tired af w how some ppl treat dino. like, the constant exclusion & infantalization or like inserting ur ships in rare shipper's post & all that so... i think that's why they said what they said but yk sure it was unnecessary and ykw i agree. i don't think we should be forced to like all 78 ships either. like, personally, i don't rlly like the govt ships (or any other lineup, even rare ones, that strictly and only consists of 12 members) bcs i feel like in the process of liking those ships, a member is actively excluded & i js don't like the idea of that but that's js me yk.

but also, i get how yall feel. like, yeah, that's invalidating fr, but to be fair we have explained again and again that it wasn't rlly abt the ships but like in general with how carats treat dino. like with "wait" for example. that was infuriating as hell... but yeah... this didn't have to be blown out of proportion like this... but here we are...

but i hope this made sense bcs i js woke up & i hope this didn't come off as offensive like that's not what i wanted to do at all i js wanted to explain why that happened... but yeah i hope this made sense

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