will be vv selective on posting stuff rn i don't want ppl hounding me here srry
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Some people already explained why only the ot12 banner was there. If you weren’t there at the exact time and place, you should’ve first tried to understand what really happened before spreading fake news that they intentionally exclude Dino. They were literally shouting and asking for any Dino banner so they could include him, but sadly NO ONE came up to them with one. That’s also why they ended up finding another way just to include Dino somehow, and the only thing they had at that time was Dino photocard. AGAIN, NO ONE APPROACHED THEM EVEN WHILE THEY WERE SHOUTING ALREADY ASKING FOR A DINO BANNER. So, please if you still can’t understand and won’t try to clear the video you posted even after explaining what really happened then I don’t know anymore.
ive seen the explanation & im not, like, trying to deny their effort or anything but like... still whatever that video still doesn't sit right w me & that's where im coming from. plus, the og post is still up anyway. it literally has 12k likes & 700k views. literally a lot of ppl know abt it, even intl fans, & im pretty sure most of them have seen the explanation too & somebody put the link there alrdy so... idk
Those mw shippers are the core insufferable people. Trust me. In tiktok they are unreasonable, inserting their stupidity in everypost relating other members taking the limelight and what the post is all about. When I called out I was told outrightly that I am not a carat. Apparently only "real carat" know what they mean.
this is a canon event for rareshippers atp askkkakw i mean, they're not all bad yk but like those who are strict abt their ships (like the ppl ur talking abt akdksskw) are toxic as hell bcs i've had experiences like this too and istg it's sooo irritating. they act like rpf is so serious as if we're not all delusional TT but don't listen to those ppl they're js being dumb
Please don’t be mad at me. I completely understand the call outs because I’m with you on that since I love ot13 even if i’m a gov shipper. But, there are two things happening at once — they might be seeing something that you don’t see which is why they’re upset, and at the same time, we might also be seeing something they don’t see which is why we’re upset. Both things can be true at the same time. What i’m trying to say is that it’s really true that some people have been unnecessarily throwing shade at gov shippers, and some people also keep forcing us to ship all 78 pairs just to be considered a “REAL CARAT” so I get why some of them react that way ofc except for those talking about engagement shits. I just think it would be better if the call out was directed at carats in general and not only to those who ship gov pairs because let’s be honest, rare or gov shippers can also do problematic things. I’m just explaining this because some people think they’re only angry because they “don’t understand” the issue, when in reality, they also genuinely feel targeted by certain call outs, which is why they keep reiterating their side. if some people say, “If you’re not doing anything wrong, then why are you affected?” well i’m not personally offended, but it’s honestly hypocritical when people choose to turn a blind eye and invalidate what those shippers are experiencing, even when it’s true that they also see things that are genuinely offensive. Because some people are clearly using this issue just to throw shade or indirectly attack them instead of actually trying to address the real problem. Lastly, to those who have hidden animosity to Dino and whose minds revolve only around ships, please get out of Caratland and go outside for once. Stop hating on people who are simply defending Dino. And if you still can’t see or understand that, then honestly, you don’t deserve to see Seventeen once they all back.
that's valid tho. i definitely have seen rareshippers shade yall & it's not that im defending these ppl bcs, like, this didn't have to be a ship war, but i get where they're coming from. iirc the person who excluded dino (in an fb post) was a govt shipper which definitely pissed a lot of ppl, myself included. also, i think it's just these people are tired af w how some ppl treat dino. like, the constant exclusion & infantalization or like inserting ur ships in rare shipper's post & all that so... i think that's why they said what they said but yk sure it was unnecessary and ykw i agree. i don't think we should be forced to like all 78 ships either. like, personally, i don't rlly like the govt ships (or any other lineup, even rare ones, that strictly and only consists of 12 members) bcs i feel like in the process of liking those ships, a member is actively excluded & i js don't like the idea of that but that's js me yk.
but also, i get how yall feel. like, yeah, that's invalidating fr, but to be fair we have explained again and again that it wasn't rlly abt the ships but like in general with how carats treat dino. like with "wait" for example. that was infuriating as hell... but yeah... this didn't have to be blown out of proportion like this... but here we are...
but i hope this made sense bcs i js woke up & i hope this didn't come off as offensive like that's not what i wanted to do at all i js wanted to explain why that happened... but yeah i hope this made sense
carats are soooo weird towards dino they absolutely dgaf about him at best and hate him at worst but wouldn't admit it in public lol it's all about appearing like they're saints with these people
fr like in a shipping context, it's not even just govt shippers but rare shippers too. they like to either exclude him or infantalize him which is so weird bcs like??? he's 30. but also in general. like mind u that wait video took us YEARS. and honestly i dgaf abt streams or wtv those r js numbers but broo we were gonna get smth for that... smth that dino worked hard for... but here we are
by the way, you can just dedma the other ships kung hindi mo gusto, hindi ‘yung ang dami n’yong sinasabi ☺️
dpmo. all we're saying is that yall have to stop excluding dino.
ayaw na lang manahimik ng mga hater. manahimik na lang kung hindi maganda ang sasabihin. okay? ^_^
let’s just focus on our own faves instead of throwing hate sa iba, na wala naman ding ginagawang masama sa’tin : )
exactly. or we could be normal and support every member yk not js our biases cus at the end of the day we're stanning a group. but i do get ur point & yeah that's better than hating the members
another dino solo that's gonna flop
ur going to hell bitch die today and see what happens. ur not gonna be sitting with jesus i promise u that
we didn't threaten to shoot dino over bittersweet unit but i think we should start doing that https://x.com/i/status/2019259325915832685
so now we're threatening to shoot dino over something he didn't even say or do.
philippine superstar this philippine bunso that pero di nagtop ang hbd solo kahit sa itunes, ,aray mo
yk that says a lot more abt u right bcs yall pick and choose who to support instead of supporting every member
you can't even support wonwoo's solo but you have the nerve to use him for that ugly rat dino not to mention the way you talk about him like he's not a real human so yes you rats deserve the exclusion and i hope it stays that way
i have always been supportive of every member. i don't pick and choose which members to support because i love them all the same. altho, admittedly, i haven't been actively showing that bcs i haven't rlly been as active before (i don't owe an asshole like u an explanation as to why). but at least i don't go on random ppl's alterspring just to talk shit abt a member.
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