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Anonymous · 1h
https://alterspring.org/@ceahhna/a/116472651846496466
I don't remember the exact words he said in his first remark. But for the second one everyone somehow just believes the "translation" from a burner account, the phrase doesn't even start with "get" but with "STAY", why would it start with "get" as if the member in question hasn't already achieved that? I do think it's not fave's place to say it so he's still wrong for it but like the two meanings are very different so I think the accusation isn't justified because of the mistranslation
the first remark was when him and chenle were playing that fuckass reverse compliment game, and they were both saying fucked up unfunny shit, haechan told chenle « why are you so skinny today » while chenle said « why are you so white today », it was from a loooong time ago but yeah, that sucked ass.
tbh idk what the real translation was i never watched that content and wasn’t a part of the fandom at the time, if you want to send me the correct translation im all for it ! tho i will say this is not the first time they mistranslated something to make hc seen as the bad guy or worse than he is, these people are so predictable man it’s almost laughable…
again we all agree what hc told jn was fucked up no matter what, it was a stupid unfunny and weird « joke » (idk if i can even consider that a joke) that he should’ve never said in the first place, and im glad he never did say something like that ever since. Meanwhile some of them… ill stop it there lol
Anonymous · 1h
Do you think sm will release tds4 encore bts
hmmmmmmm tbh you really never know with sm, idk if the editing team for dream is even still here because i’ve heard a lot of staff left all at once…
And also legally can they still upload mark related stuff after his departure ? it might depends on if he agrees tbh idk, are they just gonna blur him out ? it would be way too terrible but sm isn’t the most ethical company so…. im really not sure if we ever gonna get that behind truthfully, i would hope so but who knows
Anonymous · 18h
They tend to overlook the part where they all ganged up on him and made fun of his appearance, no other member had the same experience as him, this was especially during a time when fans were bodyshaming him and calling him names for having darker skin, something that unfortunately still continues to this day
im gonna be very honest, they know but don’t care at all, their main goal is just to deviate from the main subject and make it seem like it’s always been a « fair game » so their fave gets freed from being called out, to this day this happens whether hc is a victim of fatphobia or colorism. they always pull out the same rethoric and outdated ss lol, also sf gets harrassed and forced to delete all the time, it’s been like that since so long ago im just happy haechan never changed his physical appearance because of that 💔
Anonymous · 24h
They want to justify their bias colorism by creating scenarios 😂
LIKE, i love the members and some of them that are repeat offenders are in my bias line but let’s not lie lmaoooo
Also i will add i’ve seen a lot of ppl try and excuse the fatphobia he’s been CONSTANTLY subjected to (and still is) because he made like a maximum of 2 weird ass remarks. these people are not serious at all istg 😭
(before yall come for my throat i am NOT defending what haechan said, he was rightfully bashed and called out by even sf and he better not ever say anything again, just like all the other neos btw, but i will also say this is a very nuanced subject that ppl on twitter are incapable of having loool. It’s one thing to say fatphobic comments about someone and another when a whole group of people gang up on one person. Again, not defending hc on those comments, just pointing out the obvious)
Anonymous · 1d
I don’t get nctzens obsession in making hc seem colorist, he did weight jokes before but he never made any colorist remarks
Anonymous · 1d
Kpop fans obsession with labeling every idol as gay and then getting upset when they aren’t is really strange, I’ve seen few nctzens call hc names just because he’s supposedly straight regardless of what his sexuality actually is, it’s so odd how the same people who act woke suddenly change their attitude when idols don’t fit into the boxes they’ve created
these people always hated him bruh they’re just saying anything tbh. Like you don’t see them insulting chenle for being straight huh? im tired of everyone assuming someone’s sexuality like that and it’s always with hc because people are obsessed with everything him related.
and if one day their faves gets rumoured to have an opposite gender relationship watch how they’ll never turn on them or say shit like « but he’s gay ! 😭 » they’re just so silly these people skjfkidif
haechan never fit in any of their preconceived box and they hate it so much sksjjsks, like clockwork everytime
Anonymous · 3d
sorry for bringing this up again but this tweet https://x.com/peachyrc/status/2047704565521559898?s=46&t=Mp29eUmld70uWR9cGnFObQ like i don’t understand how much hatred you have to have to post this instead of calling out the user…like yeah that person shouldn’t have posted that tweet about haechan consulting with jaemin, they should be held accountable for it, but this should not be an appropriate reaction lmao. i’m sunflower too and these people are lwk the problem of our fandom. idk if it’s just me but i love other members too and knowing how much haechan loves them too…seeing all these solo stans hating on them is highkey disrespectful
yeah… creating a fandom war is really not something we need rn like omg 😭
i mean solo stans are everywhere it’s not just us, my problem is how some of them can’t defend their fave without dragging everyone else, it ruins the whole purpose and only brings more negativity. It deviates the subject on what the first person said and now people are pointing fingers at us and saying our fandom went too far so they dc about our arguments. It’s a mess sksjskjs
Anonymous · 3d
Non sfs don’t understand that this is not the right time to make a joke when he’s been bullied this month for the dumbest things, sometimes yall need to leave the funniest fandom attitude and just read the room like he’s probably going through a lot right now especially after his last bbl where he being formal and careful unlike his usual self, we need to have some empathy and stop treating idols like a joke all the time
Anonymous · 3d
people should know making fun of others skin is bully behavior. it cannot be brushed off as a joke. skin problems are usually genetic and even despite best treatment, it can flare up. anyone who makes fun of hc’s or anyone’s skin , body is a pos.
literally !! what’s so fun about having pimples mf 😭 and i can assure you i’ve been living my teenage years barely washing/hydrating my face + eating greasy disgusting slop everyday yet my skin never was so clear. this is not something you can necessarily control omgggg
what’s even more frustrating is that his skin is fucking clear and glowy af like !!! now we just lying for shits and giggles ? no 😭 and it’s so annoying how his appearance is always at the centre of these conversations, it is that deep actually. We barely get anything hc related and im still so scared about his next appearance but you got corny ass mf making fun of him for pimples he don’t even have yall are bullies and don’t know how to joke
Anonymous · 3d
i like seeing sunflowers defending haechan when non fans make fun on him but some sunflowers are taking it too far to the point of saying other members are untalented and i think that’s crossing a line bcs no one in this skincare thing hasn’t said that haechan is untalented but ofc some fans just have the need to bring up other members and drag them. defending him can go without dragging others and it’s just creating another useless fanwar between solo stans. i’m not saying that sfs should stay quiet but some should choose better words without shading others. and i think that’s why we are called boy moms bcs some sfs are saying just unnecessary things and creating unnecessary drama. like yeah as a sunflower, i don’t like seeing people making fun of him over something trivial like skincare when he obviously discussed it with professionals but dragging his members into it is just weird…idk if it’s just me but when someone can’t defend their fav without insulting someone else that’s just reaching the same low as the person who started something…
i hope this doesn’t sound like i’m talking shit about sfs who are defending him!! i’m not saying sfs should stop or anything but like…let’s not insult others too?
100% agree, like yall are solo stans i get it okay no one is forcing you to like the other members. but u guys are just bringing more hate and doing a disservice to haechan 😭, im on the side of the spectrum where i don’t think we should even interact with them, if they are just antis or haters purposefully shading him why are we giving them our attention ? one look at their profile and it’s so easy to spot the throwaway accounts. im not shading my own fandom either i love you all but i think sometimes you need to sigh and scroll, you can defend haechan without bringing others down because the cycle will never end if we keep it going.
Yeah a lot of subf have a deep rooted hate boner towards hc and it’s sad and frustrating but let’s not go to their level of immature and defend haechan in a more meaningful way ! There has been so much negativity around him lately that it breaks my heart in million pieces, im so sad people still make fun of him for the most meaningless thing but if we want things to maybe change going in that direction is only gonna make it worse im afraid 😭
For me if i see someone just spewing insults and hate towards someone i like because they didn’t like my argument i wont even try to understand their point, hell my shady ass would double down on it slsjsksk. even from an outsider pov it’s just so childish…
anyways let’s all love haechan more he needs or support the most rn 🫶🫶