oh fucking hell yeahhhhhhhhhhhh uiahdnwkjlsahndkljndw yeah holy fuck he's definitely a twitcher and I think when he comes it twitches so much and goes all over the place and jisung probably loves to watch it from eye level. like he'll beg minho to pull out and let him watch and make his face look all pretty with his cum hnng god also you mentioned jisung's cock and i can't ignore the fact that they must compare them so often because of the massive size difference. i think jisung is a twitcher too but his cock is so little it almost seems more like it's trembling and minho loves to call it cute but in a degrading/predator sort of way....yeah....fuck.

yes yes I do! also um please come back and share the one you read because if I happen to have not read it…I would like to lol

spilling over by hannie_bee
https://archiveofourown.org/works/66498136

morbid curiosity by bingchillen
https://archiveofourown.org/works/59133286

dates penned in red ink by mnhosfav
https://archiveofourown.org/works/57766237

Indebted to You by PK_KO
https://archiveofourown.org/works/81310386/chapters/213747756

"Perfect for you" by Caliander (a wip but so worth it tbh)
https://archiveofourown.org/works/79527431/chapters/208676961

the sacrificial lamb series by breakmeopen (it's 2 fics!!)
https://archiveofourown.org/series/4479937

Twisted. by asilentcryforme
https://archiveofourown.org/works/52465846

there also may be some others buried in this rec list I put together based on people's recs from twt if you want to click through: https://triangular-cone-19a.notion.site/Miso-Dorm-Fic-Rec-Lists-e3cad404241583c09c6f0187b368f855

and here are some I wrote:

on my deathbed, all i'll see is you*
https://archiveofourown.org/works/82670661

pull the trigger
https://archiveofourown.org/works/69127361

there is one other that I can't fucking find but if I find it I'll put it on twitter lol

okay please know I have been thinking about this ever since you sent it and going insane I have just been so busy/mentally preoccupied jknkjanwd

but OH MY FUCKING GOD ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THIS IS SOOOO KJWNDKJANWSD

YES IM SO FUCKING FAMILIAR WITH THIS CONCEPT AND I'M OBSESSED WITH IT.

my mind is running wild jfc okay so. like what is their relationship? are they besties or coworkers or just a couple of guys who happen to cross paths a lot? I could do so much with this…the world is my fucking oyster right now…oh my god…or even best friend's dad/brother….

//noncon, slut shaming, dry penetration

okay lets start with that. best friend's brother minho who doesn't really know jisung except for that he spends a lot of time with his younger brother felix. they've known each other for a while but only started becoming better friends over the past year, so jisung has been coming to their house a lot more often. and minho doesn't really hang around or anything. but, he finds that he crosses paths with jisung a lot while he's there. jisung is fucking unhinged. he wears the skimpiest, sluttiest clothes around their house. shorts that hardly cover his ass, crop tops that leave his waist exposed, and he's always acting so…helpless. standing on his tippy toes reaching for things on the top cabinets, moaning and whining when he can't reach it, and knowing full well that minho isn't even that much taller than him he still whimpers "please hyung. help. it's too hard."

what's even more ridiculous is jisung is always finding ways to get them alone together. to get himself cornered specifically. cramming himself into small spaces that minho is already occupying. like in the laundry room that one time he spilled water all over his white cropped tee and swore he really didn't mean to when he stumbled and fell ass to crotch against minho on his way to the dryer.

minho had been so strong, resisted his urges, knowing it would be wrong. that no matter how hungry for the attention jisung is he clearly wants just that. just attention. but minho wants so much more, and jisung clearly has no idea what situation he's really putting himself in. because minho may have a decent amount of self control but there's a limit, and when he snaps there's no going back.

the day he snaps is exactly how he expected it would be, too. jisung went too far, but it's not like it was much worse than any of his other antics. minho had been sitting on the couch watching a show when jisung casually walked into the dark living room, once again in those damn shorts, and was anything but discreet about the way he tripped over minho's feet and landed right in his lap.

minho might have let him off this time, but jisung got too greedy. he lingered too long, really let the moment sink in and gave minho time to really react. so before he knows it, he's being held down against minho's lap, even against all his squirming and apologizing. "sorry hyung…didn't mean to…let go.." but it's wayyyy too late for anything like that. minho has been pent up for weeks because of him, and the desire to hold him down and take everything he wants has become too strong to ignore.

anywayssss yes yes he flips him onto his stomach on the couch, pulls his shorts to his knees and goes in dry hehe eventually he does have mercy on him and spits on his hole but the whole time jisung is crying and begging and saying "no I didn't mean it hyung…stop…don't want this!" and minho is calling him a slut (love a healthy amount of slut shaming tbh) and saying this is actually EXACTLY what jisung wanted. this is what he was asking for it and hyung is just giving it to him since he was too shy to use his words and had to show off his body like a whore just to communicate. "it's okay, baby. you only have cock on the brain, right? understandable you can't use your words."

AHHHHH I just love love love when they're told they were "asking for it" when really they were just getting a little carried away being flirty and trying to hook someone into being obsessed with them. like, objectively just trying to get attention without having to follow through. god it's so fucking good, and minho would absolutely outsmart him EVERY TIME.

I also like the idea that they're strangers. or like idk acquaintances. like lets say jisung works at a coffee shop that minho regulars at. and jisung is very kind and maybe after a while just a little flirty because wow this older man (I like a bit bigger age gap but it can be whatever lol) is so so handsome and sweet and jisung can't help but be a little giggly and touch his hand here and there and maybe he starts doing his hair and make up a little prettier and of course minho notices. but it's nothing THAT overt.

but it's enough to have minho waiting in the alley outside the coffee shop one night when jisung closes on his own (he became obsessive and found this info out somehow idk lol) and slams him against the concrete wall and fucks him, all while jisung is begging him to stop but minho is reminding him "you wanted this. you've been asking for it for weeks" and jisung is just sobbing saying he wasn't, he didn't mean to, he just thought minho was nice, etc. but jisung does end up taking it like a whore, moaning and rolling his hips and coming all over the wall even if he is so so ashamed of himself and what the hell lets say he was a virgin before that too and now he feels used up weeeee hooray!

thank you for giving me a reason to be a horrible pervert I adore you jaigya

I am not going to lie to you with every single round of this discourse I am less and less inclined to fight the good fight akjndkjawd it is just so repackaged every time. there is so much blatant and intentional ignorance. people coming into our space and morally grandstanding about things they actually don't know a single thing about but also refuse to actually educate themselves and engage in good faith conversations. at the end of the day it's never going to matter what we say, their minds will never be changed, and the best we can do is support each other in doing whatever the fuck we want to do anyways.

because it's genuinely infuriating to witness this level of misunderstanding and being completely oblivious to all the reasons why their points don't hold up!!!! or how it absolutely directly relates to other things THEY love and enjoy being condemned. like oh my fucking god you're exactly right!!!!! the same line of thinking goes along with queer media being censored and they are using the SAAAME talking points as conservative homophobes trying to shove all queer people back into the closet for good.

and im sorry but at this point I'm just using your message to rant but like…I genuinely so badly need these people to delete the twitter app and go immerse themselves in the real world and other media. MAINSTREAM media. popular media!!!!!!!! media that has been around for decades. I feel like I'm living in an alternate reality when I open twitter and I see these people so passionate about something that actually people off of twitter and away from fandom spaces would probably not think twice about. and if they do, they're usually at least like??? not fucking aggressive about it. most people genuinely do not care. something about being on twitter has rotted peoples ability to think for themselves and approach perfectly common topics in a normal way. like it is literally not a fanfiction thing. are they not understanding how many fanfic writers based their fic interests and the things they read/write off of OTHER popular media tropes that they enjoy? I do, anyways. I like the things I like because of the shows I watched manyyyy years ago (pretty little liars being a big reason for my student/teacher interest). anime that I've watched in the past AND present. a long fucking laundry list of BL mangas/manhwas that I have paid money for and read that have LITERALLY introduced me to these concepts. its beyond frustrating when you have yearssss under your belt of just casually consuming popular media and then when you dare to be consistent in the interests you've always had people are literally enraged about it kawnkjdwn

like at a point are they also just boycotting mainstream media? they're gonna have to boycott crunchyroll because I accidentally stumbled on graphic sex scenes between high schoolers by watching the BL they were advertising on their front page! they're going to have to boycott Netflix for hosting pretty little liars, a show that introduced me to romanticized student/teacher relationships between a high schooler and an adult! (as well as all the streaming services that NOW host it lol) they're DEFINITELY going to have to boycott pretty much every single major manga/manhwa publisher for the LIST of "problematic tropes" that they're introducing to an entire community of consumers to!!!!!!! and I have not even began to discuss the concept of horror fiction and true crime and that rabbit hole we could go down.

genuinely it is absurd when you actually sit down and consider it. which is why at a certain point I have to sit down and remind myself that we are living in this stupid fucking twitter bubble that is absolutely not representative of the real world. and when we step outside of it, yes there is still this looming imminent threat of censorship (which is easy to spiral over when you see just as bad it's getting) but at least we can find some comfort in knowing that real life and the state of media is nowhere near what is happening on twitter and in these fandom spaces where people speak with zero knowledge or experience and are only speaking emotionally or with every single bit of their opinion being formed based on other people's misinformed think pieces on twitter about the topic.

it scares me how conservative and puritanical fandom spaces are becoming. me personally I often just feel stuck and part of the problem when I see it and don't say something. but saying something just riles them up. and I often wonder if saying something only further solidifies their hateful opinions because they become defensive and stubborn. this is something I'd be interested in hearing others' opinions on. I always think it's important to speak up about things because it makes people feel seen and safe and less ashamed of their interests and beliefs. that's what people seek community for, after all. and I think it is SO SO SO important because it may be the only place they get that type of validation. I know just how important that validation is, too. but where does the line have to be drawn? at what point is the discourse no longer effective for either "side"?

idk kjanwkdjnw I'm annoyed and frustrated. anyways, yes, thank you for sending me a message and enabling my ranting LOL I was honestly already sitting here annoyed so it's nice to just say what's on my mind lol I was contemplating just sharing a bunch of resources or talking about media other than Kpop that I enjoy just to indulge a bit and remind people that there are other things out there but I came here first.

like I also just think it's important to remember that even if people are on their twitter account where they mostly talk about Kpop they did likely HAVE OTHER HOBBIES AND INTERESTS and for me that is very much the case. I do not base all of my opinions on kpop rpf discourse lol this is the first time I have ever in my life engaged with rpf directly, but before getting here I had already solidified many of my core beliefs years ago. so! I am quite confident, but also willing to listen and discuss and evolve, but I will not be doing so in response to people spewing mindless hate for reasons not even they understand.

acting morally superior when it comes to fictional media is genuinely just fruitless. especially when those "morals" don't extend to the way they treat actual human beings. or when they don't stop to think how their words and actions affect thinking feeling individuals other than themselves. I know what you mean…their words can be extremely dehumanizing and there's never a need for it. idk it just upsets me to see those things because I know how damaging it is. and I always just imagine the people that it's affecting silently even if they don't say anything. I'm very bad at not saying something in those cases. so, I guess I've just resigned myself to the trouble it ultimately brings me LOL if it makes others feel safe and validated in any way then that's worth it for me.

and I'm not perfect by any means. I have feelings and get frustrated and speak emotionally just like anyone else. but I do hope that people know I just want others to feel comfortable as much as possible. <3 thank you for telling me that it's come across that way to you!! it makes me very happy to hear.

I fucking love this because i LOOOOVE the opposite vibes they have going on here. jisung on the rougher side and minho all elegant and refined…jfc that's so hot kjnakjwnd

the silky pink ribbons made me think of aerial actually lol which I kinda think ballet dancer minho would be into. like maybe he is a pro ballet dancer and he's also been dabbling in some aerial routines and the first time jisung sees him do it all he can think about is how pretty he would look all strung up with those pretty pink silk ribbons. so he takes them from the studio without telling minho HAHAHA which feels very punk of him. just smuggles them out and when minho sees them back at his apartment (jisung insisted he tag along for a visit of course!!!) he scolds him for it. says those belong to the studio and that he can't just take things without asking. but he shuts up real quick when jisung spins him around and ties his wrists together behind his back and starts sucking on his neck.

jisung is probably like a feral animal when he gets to let loose with minho. surely minho is covered in bruises and bite marks and he complains every single time because he needs to keep his skin clear for performances. and usually jisung is pretty good at respecting it when it gets close to time for minho to be on stage but this time he's not even thinking about it. he's completely lost in how pretty the pink silk pulled taught over minho's body. and he is of course testing all sorts of positions. seeing just how far minho's ankles reach…if they can go behind his neck and stay there the whole time jisung pounds into him. and minho cry of course. not because he's upset but because it feels so fucking good…jisung can hit places inside of him that no one had ever been able to. because people always treat him like something fragile. like just because his dancing is delicate and dainty that he is too. but it's entirely the opposite. minho is strong as hell. and even though he could easily overpower jisung, he doesn't want to. he wants jisung to be rough with him, and he is. jisung has never treated him like he could so easily break. he pushes him to his limits at any and all opportunities and then continues pushing far past them.

mmmmm yeah anyways jisung fucks him raw and hard and makes him coming multiple times before coming inside him. he should also take lots of photos and videos of all the different ways he ties him up and how pretty he looks so that they can revisit it later hehe <3